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16d Case Bulldozer

Postby Idris » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:11 pm

Neither the NAMC’s “Catalog of all Series Matchbox Models” (second edition) nor the AIM's “1-75 Series Regular Wheels” catalogue (second printing, 1983) lists any variations not already covered by Nick.
Stannard is difficult to interpret since he only lists three base text variations (Nick has four). Houghton (presumably derived from Stannard) is the same. In addition, they have five baseplate text/undercab brace thickness combinations rather than Nick's four, making unpicking the variation tables nigh on impossible.
U.K. Matchbox examined the model in vol. 4 no. 4 (Oct. '80) p118, and also identified only three baseplates. Unfortunately, they are not the same three as Stannard and Houghton! In addition, the variation in ridge thickness underneath at the rear was not spotted.

Given the above, it is very difficult to say whether Nick's listing is missing any previously catalogued variations. However, I think two points can be made:
- It looks as though the link between the baseplate text and the undercab ridge thickness may[ not be fixed. Both Stannard and Houghton indicate that the same text can exist with either ridge thickness, the thin ridge being found on earlier models, and the thicker ridge on later models.
- I do not think that all four baseplates were in production simultaneously (as Nick's variation table implies). Given how other cataloguers have listed their baseplate variations against other changes to the model (i.e. blade, track guards, cab rear), it is clear that replacement baseplate tooling was cut during the model's lifetime. In my opinion, this makes it highly unlikely that Nick's baseplate type A exists with black rollers (variation code 25).
In this particular instance, I think all we can do is compare the models in our collections against those in Mick's table, confirming what we can, and adding further variations as necessary.
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Re: 16d Case Bulldozer

Postby Brad Pittiful » Sun May 28, 2017 9:48 pm

i found some variations not listed in nicks guide

he has listed the first 4 variations with square track guards and no cab ears...but there are other variations with square track guards that dont fall in the first 4 codes

i have three with square track guards and with cab ears...the 13 14 15 16 codes say these all should have rounded track guards and i have three with square track guards

the codes 9 10 11 12 say...rounded track guards...mine has square track guards
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Re: 16d Case Bulldozer

Postby Brad Pittiful » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:01 am

as i was looking over these models again before i put them away i noticed i had one in the superfast rotating display...i took it out and it doesnt have the quotes on the base...i forgot i had this as i was searching for one...also have one without the rounded corners on the blade but its very well played with so i am searching for one of these too

as we all do i checked or the guide for some info to refresh my knowledge and i have some models that contradict the guide...it said the #1 casting had the no quotes but i have a number 2 without no quotes...in the pic of the no quotes model it has black tracks as does my #2 base model without quotes...the guide says later issues have black tracks

anyone else have similar model to mine?
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Re: 16d Case Bulldozer

Postby DrJeep » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:51 pm

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I have base 4 without quotation marks around Matchbox. Mine also has black tracks with 26 treads, not the 25 of the green tracks, though there's no way of telling whether they've been replaced. The hook is on a beam, there are no cab "ears", the track guards are squared and the bulldozer blade is without a ridge and has rounded inner corners.

I think the quotation marks must have been added early (perhaps very early?) in production when someone remembered that they form part of the trademark. If so, there should also be base 3 without quotation marks, and base 1 with them.

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Re: 16d Case Bulldozer

Postby ChFalkensteiner » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:36 am

DrJeep wrote:I think the quotation marks must have been added early (perhaps very early?) in production when someone remembered that they form part of the trademark. If so, there should also be base 3 without quotation marks, and base 1 with them.


I can confirm that this is definitely true.

Besides, in my experience (so far) totally angled blade corners are only found on number 4 bases; all others are always somewhat rounded, although there is some variety.

The Case Bulldozer is one of the most difficult models with regard to deciding which casting differences are due to the four base moulds used concurrently and which are due to modifications made to the castings. My own way of cataloguing these things is somewhat different from Nick's, but I am by no means sure if I am 100% correct.

Of course, models without quotation marks should always have green rubber tracks, not black, but those can be switched anytime.
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Re: 16d Case Bulldozer

Postby DrJeep » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:59 am

Thank you - it's good to know that all four bases can be found without the quotation marks.

I think you're probably right about the tracks being changed. However, it is interesting that mine, Brad's and the one without quotation marks pictured here http://www.vintagebritishdiecasts.co.uk/1index/xx16d.htm all have black tracks. Mine has 26 treads, not 25, and is noticeably thinner than the green tracks on this other 16d (bought entirely separately, so not swapped between these two). Is the black 26 tread track from a later 16d or are these 25 tread as listed in Nick's guide?

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